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Wednesday, August 20, 2014

Atheists Contradict Themselves by Seeking Invocations

Many times when I have debated atheists, they assert that they don't need to prove their atheism. As Richard Carrier put it, "It is not necessarily incumbent upon me to provide evidence for atheism. I mean if we say that aliens don't exist, then I don't have to prove to you that they don't exist; rather, you need to prove to me they do, or that there are fairies in the woods or demons or so forth. The claimant has to actually establish the fact."1 The common refrain that atheism is not a belief but simply a lack of belief shows up over and over, even though atheists are making a truth-claim about the world.

Here's the interesting thing, though. When placed in other contexts, atheists themselves deny this position. Take government meetings as an example. After the Supreme Court ruled earlier this year in Greece v. Galloway that opening local legislative meetings in prayer was constitutional2, the Central Florida Freethought Community took a different tack; they decided to petition to offer invocations at various government meetings, even providing a model letter so that other atheist groups could do likewise.

Justice Kennedy, in writing for the majority on Greece v. Galloway, captured the purpose of offering an invocation:

The principal audience for these invocations is not, indeed, the public but lawmakers themselves, who may find that a moment of prayer or quiet reflection sets the mind to a higher purpose and thereby eases the task of governing…

The inclusion of a brief, ceremonial prayer as part of a larger exercise in civic recognition suggests that its purpose and effect are to acknowledge religious leaders and the institutions they represent rather than to exclude or coerce nonbelievers.

Ceremonial prayer is but a recognition that, since this Nation was founded and until the present day, many Americans deem that their own existence must be understood by precepts far beyond the authority of government to alter or define and that willing participation can be done with a brief acknowledgement of their belief in a higher power, always with due respect for those who adhere to other beliefs. 3
But this is exactly where the atheist has a problem. If an invocation is to point to a higher purpose and to recognize specific religious beliefs, then it follows that invocations are ways of communicating a faith, which means that there are real claims being made about the nature of the world. The freethinkers, in asking to offer invocations, are asserting a belief system. Therefore, to claim that they bear no burden of proof is absurd.

Imagine a group petitioning a city council to provide an invocation on the grounds that there are no aliens or fairies in the world. They would immediately be rejected because the fact that they don't believe such things cannot support any kind of meaningful invocation. It would do exactly what Kennedy said invocations shouldn't: it would mock other belief systems.

Atheists here are caught in a contradiction. Either they are simply holding to the non-existence of an entity or they are advancing a particular belief system, complete with claims about man, the universe, origins, morality, and the nature of reality. They can't have it both ways. Seeking invocation opportunities betrays the atheist's claim that they simply lack belief. it's a contradiction, and contradictions about the fundamental nature of a worldview by its adherents underscore its implausibility.


1. Transcript from "Esposito vs. Carrier, The Great God Debate: Does God Exist?" Come Reason Ministries. 2012. Available at

2. Town of Greece, New York v. Galloway et al. 572 U.S. ___. Supreme Court of the United States.
2014. . Web. 5 Mar. 2014.

3 Town of Greece, 19, 23.


  1. Anonymous7:57 AM

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  2. Mr. Esposito,

    I am a member of the Central Florida Freethought Community (CFFC) to which you refer. Furthermore, I am heavily involved in the efforts to provide secular invocations at local government meetings. I understand that you have your view on why we are doing this. But I hope you will allow me to speak for myself with respect to this issue and explain why I lobby for inclusion.

    It's true that atheists generally shy away from referring to their position as a belief. The word "belief" carries with it a connotation that implies faith which, in turn, most atheists view as believing something without evidence. Consequently, you will often find just what you describe, protestations that atheism is not a belief per se, but a lack of. The atheist may justifiably say "I do not dispute that a supernatural realm including a god MAY exist but you have not proven your case." And so without rejecting your claim, he can still withhold acceptance of it.

    I find Jerry DeWitt's personal statement to be spot on in this respect. It says in part "Agnosticism is my conclusion. Atheism is my opinion." Essentially he's saying "I don't know but if you make me choose, I'd say gods don't exist."

    Regardless, this semantic argument fails to advance the conversation and your use of it in service to a conclusion that atheists contradict themselves may make you feel superior but offers nothing constructive. So let's move on to the invocation issue.

    You are, in some sense, correct in imagining the comical scene of an a-fairy-ist or an a-alien-ist offering an invocation on the basis of their lack of belief in fairies or aliens. But you will find that the invocations that are being offered by atheists are not "prayers offered to nothing" but humanist invocations that appeal to the good will, compassion and empathy inside each of us.

    Humanism is a positive belief in humanity and what we can accomplish if we work together. It is often identified explicitly as the motivation behind our striving for equal treatment, equal access, tolerance and respect. As such, CFFC is a proud affiliate of the American Humanist Association.

    I may lack belief in your god or any gods. But I have a belief in the overall goodness of humans and what they can do. It is upon this foundation that I stand and claim equal access to government in the form of invocations as explicitly granted to me by Greece v. Galloway. Whether or not you think it undermines my opinion that gods don't exist is irrelevant to this point. But because of my positive humanistic beliefs, I think your claim of contradiction falls a little flat.

    I invite you to listen to some of the secular invocations that have been offered. You will find a collection of them, as well as a pagan invocation or two, on our website at


    Joseph Richardson

    P.S. Jerry DeWitt's statement ends with "Humanism is my motivation."

  3. You missed the point entirely. It's not about actual God-bothering, it's about equality.


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