tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post1165938801904406098..comments2024-03-01T07:35:49.740-08:00Comments on Come Reason's Apologetics Notes: If We're Only Our Bodies, Life Is MeaninglessLenny Espositohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04064209669748618955noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-25847508465750815552015-11-15T20:30:19.414-08:002015-11-15T20:30:19.414-08:00Except you dont, not really. What you're actua...Except you dont, not really. What you're actually sayng is that you WANT to belive in God, so the answers you're looking for leads you there. You stare long enough at the wallpaper, you're going to see a face. The face isnt there, but your mind thinks it is. On the other hand, God might be there, and I'm the one who's not seeing the face that is really there because I assume its not. That doesnt make it a choice though.H.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01733182401717655231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-63613432741799018772015-11-15T20:26:41.306-08:002015-11-15T20:26:41.306-08:00...okay, I agree its kind of sad if we are just a ......okay, I agree its kind of sad if we are just a collection of atoms that thinks it is a person, but just because its sad doesnt make it go away. You dont really seem to make an argument of why we would have a soul other than that you want us to have one. I dont particularly like the idea of just evaporating like mist when I die, but thats probably whats going to happen, I cant do anything to avoid it. And even if I could, the thought of eternal life has its own unpleasant implications. H.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01733182401717655231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-45622116270798628952014-08-20T06:20:27.655-07:002014-08-20T06:20:27.655-07:00RE: 'First, you believe your 'soul' at...RE: 'First, you believe your 'soul' at conception is the same as your 'soul' at the prime of your life, say, 30 years old?'<br /><br />Why shouldn't it be? Is it because I don't remember being unborn? I don't remember being asleep when I was 30 either. <br /><br />RE: 'Second, where did your soul come from? Is it a part of God himself? Or did God zap it into existance from nothing in Heaven before you were born?'<br /><br />My soul is created so it certainly isn't part of God who is uncreated by definition. God is the creator of all things material and immaterial.<br /><br />RE: 'You may not like the consequences of finding out you don't have a supernatural soul, but your goal should be to seek what's true, not what feels best (delusion).'<br /><br />Are you saying that you agree that the consequences of there being no supernatural soul is that there is no meaning to life? If we have no soul then I'm afraid we are both deluded my friend. What you or I 'feel' matters not a jot. There is no right and there is no wrong and so any search for truth is futile. But I suspect that we both consider that truth exists and that it is worth seeking. I suspect that you don't consider yourself to be deluded, even though your worldview demands that we all must be.<br />Only the theist is consistent as a truth seeker. The naturalist is forced to borrow from the theistic worldview in order to establish that truth exists and can be known. A consistent naturalist has no basis for either truth or knowledge for in his worldview all experience is delusion. <br /><br />Tip. Take a break from the philosophy of Dawkins. It's not his field of expertise.Bodsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12805863669441496439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-74730019632551075652014-08-20T00:39:05.021-07:002014-08-20T00:39:05.021-07:00Wishful thinking? Delusion? Can you please come up...Wishful thinking? Delusion? Can you please come up with a better argument than just parroting Dawkins? Wait - let me refute you: Just because you don't believe that there exists such a thing as the soul doesn't mean that it isn't true. Brilliant.xman51https://www.blogger.com/profile/00015859198632381273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-83602046665073961032014-06-08T13:58:54.540-07:002014-06-08T13:58:54.540-07:00Just because you want something to be true, doesn&...Just because you want something to be true, doesn't mean it isn't.Pamelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993737857425458611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-61947608616812010682014-04-10T13:45:34.918-07:002014-04-10T13:45:34.918-07:00RE, article said: "However, Christianity offe...RE, article said: "However, Christianity offers an answer to this dilemma. The Christian view of humanity teaches that we are not merely the assembly of atoms."<br /><br />Wishful thinking isn't a way to determine truth. Just because you don't like the consequences doesn't mean it isn't true. You are facing your mortality, and fighting your survival instinct. Believing in an afterlife might make you feel good, but it is a fantasy (delusion).Bernie Dehlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03919318328504104290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-54851416037885169102014-01-10T10:05:00.658-08:002014-01-10T10:05:00.658-08:00I certainly enjoyed both the article and the refer...I certainly enjoyed both the article and the referenced comic strip. For me, the answer is really quite simple. Either a person maintains his identity; or, no person at all exists, rather than a multiplicity of them. <br /><br />The alternative to selves is not only grim, but self-defeating (a pun in this case). The soul, with its power to imagine and to create, and to bring into existence other things like language, art, and science—indeed all of knowledge—is either the most powerful non-existent thing in the entire cosmos; or, a really existing—as wholly distinctive from the material constituents of the body, so constituted—person.<br /><br />The self indeed causally affects the material components of the bio-mechanical instrument we call the physiological brain. It elicits changes to both neuronal and chemical, even physical components, making decisions as to how I think, speak, and act. This person (soul) I call me is the one thing I am 100% certain of. Everything else may be a delusion; but, I know me. Shimbabwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08611539659836476507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-35046974828104051282014-01-02T16:35:50.511-08:002014-01-02T16:35:50.511-08:00The person above has interesting thoughts and poin...The person above has interesting thoughts and points. I'll be curious to your response. I agree with what you are saying concerning life is meaningless if we are just bodies. I am very open minded and always seeking truth and everything always leads me to God. There are of course unanswered questions that everybody has and that there aren't any answers to. I know people say God is mythical and a lot of other things, but I also believe we have a choice. I choose to believe in God.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00621058593005796752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6805190.post-25786517573984993802014-01-02T14:14:11.007-08:002014-01-02T14:14:11.007-08:00RE: "The soul is not replaced bit by bit. It ...RE: "The soul is not replaced bit by bit. It is fundamentally the same thing. "<br /><br />First, you believe your 'soul' at conception is the same as your 'soul' at the prime of your life, say, 30 years old?<br /><br />Second, where did your soul come from? Is it a part of God himself? Or did God zap it into existance from nothing in Heaven before you were born?<br /><br />You may not like the consequences of finding out you don't have a supernatural soul, but your goal should be to seek what's true, not what feels best (delusion).Bernie Dehlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03919318328504104290noreply@blogger.com